This thread is for anyone who adheres to hadith as guidance if they wish to discuss with us.
As it may be known, we, and personally I in this case, do not take my guidance from any man-made books like hadith - for the simple reason that the guidance comes from the Qur'an.
Ever since I was a child, many "traditions" we blindly followed (no doubt passed down by some imam or scholar) seemed very illogical to me.
Other things deriving from the tradition, that very much bothered me - I am being sincere here - since I was a very small child, is for example the extensive praise of Muhammad, pbuh - especially such details like in all mosques in my area seeing the name of Muhammad always being put at the front wall in the mosque - on the same level with the name of God. So, everywhere I went, I would pray in the direction of 2 big signs that said "Allah - Muhammad". As if, we have 2 gods and we are directing our prayer to those two.
Here is an example of how that looks like in the mosque:
Since the overwhelming majority of common people here had no idea what even "hadith" are, they did not much think about these things. But I did, because I started studying and researching these things.
And as many point out: if only the majority of Muslims would actually know what utter nonsense can be found in the hadith, which is not only illogical, but many times degrading regarding the prophets, perverse and literally evil -- they too would start questioning the validity of hadith.
The more the time passed the more I noticed that many things are quite problematic when taking hadith as religious guidance - things that directly contradict the Qur'an, things that are a matter of life and death, where one's very existence can be threatened if one were to literally take the religious rulings from those books.
Naturally if you bring this up to "imams" you will be met with fearce resistance, where critical thinking is not allowed, or where sofisticated mental gymnastics are applied in order to "reconcile" some saying in some hadith book with the Qur'an or the actual reality.
I think the core of the issue with the common people who continue adhering to hadith is actually FEAR.
They are afraid that if they reject hadith as religious guidance then they will be shunned by their community, ostracized and somehow be condemned by God - while ignoring that the Qur'an perfectly lays out the guidance on what you have to do to please God.
Anyway, feel free to discuss this - also if you are someone who keeps sticking to the hadith - please do bring your arguments.
As it may be known, we, and personally I in this case, do not take my guidance from any man-made books like hadith - for the simple reason that the guidance comes from the Qur'an.
Ever since I was a child, many "traditions" we blindly followed (no doubt passed down by some imam or scholar) seemed very illogical to me.
Other things deriving from the tradition, that very much bothered me - I am being sincere here - since I was a very small child, is for example the extensive praise of Muhammad, pbuh - especially such details like in all mosques in my area seeing the name of Muhammad always being put at the front wall in the mosque - on the same level with the name of God. So, everywhere I went, I would pray in the direction of 2 big signs that said "Allah - Muhammad". As if, we have 2 gods and we are directing our prayer to those two.
Here is an example of how that looks like in the mosque:
Since the overwhelming majority of common people here had no idea what even "hadith" are, they did not much think about these things. But I did, because I started studying and researching these things.
And as many point out: if only the majority of Muslims would actually know what utter nonsense can be found in the hadith, which is not only illogical, but many times degrading regarding the prophets, perverse and literally evil -- they too would start questioning the validity of hadith.
The more the time passed the more I noticed that many things are quite problematic when taking hadith as religious guidance - things that directly contradict the Qur'an, things that are a matter of life and death, where one's very existence can be threatened if one were to literally take the religious rulings from those books.
Naturally if you bring this up to "imams" you will be met with fearce resistance, where critical thinking is not allowed, or where sofisticated mental gymnastics are applied in order to "reconcile" some saying in some hadith book with the Qur'an or the actual reality.
I think the core of the issue with the common people who continue adhering to hadith is actually FEAR.
They are afraid that if they reject hadith as religious guidance then they will be shunned by their community, ostracized and somehow be condemned by God - while ignoring that the Qur'an perfectly lays out the guidance on what you have to do to please God.
Anyway, feel free to discuss this - also if you are someone who keeps sticking to the hadith - please do bring your arguments.
Not a leaf falls without His knowledge. | Q:6:59
(Edited 21.10.2024, 03:59 by sHuRuLuNi.)
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